View Full Version : Mccain picks a WOMAN!
Emmsmom
08-29-2008, 07:57 AM
I don't want to make this topic about a certain party... I simply wondered what you all think about a woman possibly being the Vice President? I have always said that I didn't like woman holding offices like this because so many in the world just really don't respect women. I had my doubts about Condoleezza Rice. So far she seems to be holding her own when it comes to other countries. I am very old fashioned and have always thought that men should be running the country. I am slowly changing my mind. The lady he picked seems to have a lot of qualities that I like. I don't mean her polictical views.. I like the fact that she seems to be just a regular person like any one of us. So what do you guys think about women holding offices like this.
Here is a link that shows how down to earth she seems.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2008/08/29/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-sarah-palin.html
Shada
08-29-2008, 09:14 AM
I don't have a problem with a woman vice president. I see no reason why a woman can't hold office and be a huge asset to our country.
That being said, I really don't think McClain is the man we need in office as our President. Not sure about Obama either.. not going to be a easy election year.
I do wish Hillary Clinton had won the nomination. She didn't. But she is now endorsing Obama and that for me is probably the turning point.
One thing I know for sure, George Bush has hurt our country, and we need a strong man to try to fix the huge mistakes he has made.
Emmsmom
08-29-2008, 09:22 AM
Well after her speech I am sold... I thought it was nice of her to mention Hillary and Geraldine Feraldo. Hillary was the first First Lady to become a senator. Even tho I don't like Hillary you have to repsect everything that she has accomplished. I think that Palin will represent women very nicely.
Marilyn
08-29-2008, 05:46 PM
Let's keep in mind that McCain is 72 years old. This lady even as nice as she is has been govenor of a state with a population of 670,053 for one month longer than Obama has been running for President. Prior to that, she was the part time mayor of a small town of 6,700 people, and prior to that a city counsel member for that small town.
For comparison, the population of Memphis, Tennessee is 674,028.
Again, she may be a wonderful person, but there are a lot of wonderful people in the Republican party who are pro-life who have much more experience than this fine lady.
Who do you want to answer the phone at 3 a.m.? Sarah Palin, hockey mom and small town mayor/small state govenor, or someone with some years of experience with international relations.
Kay Bailey Hutchison or Condoleza Rice are fine Republican women with the right kind of experience. If we are looking at credentials and not just gender, there are lots of very qualified Republicans who I would much rather have answer that phone at 3 a.m.
She, again, may have a heart of gold, but is she ready to hold the most important elected position in the country, maybe in the world?
It really makes you wonder why her, why now? I'm all for women in high level positions in our government. I believe they bring wonderful qualities to the job, but when a woman is put in that position, it needs to be one who is extremely qualified and ready to perform the functions required of her, whatever they may be.
Shada
08-29-2008, 07:05 PM
Well said Marilyn..
Emmsmom
08-30-2008, 05:32 AM
That's all fine and dandy but I wasn't asking what anyone thought of her as a Republican.. I was wondering what everyone thinks of women in general holding high positions such as this.
I seriously didn't think it would happen, but McCain has picked a running mate that I feel good about and feel balances him out well. In my opinion the best presidents aren't necessarily the ones who know it all or have experienced it all, but who surround themselves by people who do. What's important to me is that they be of good judgment, strong ethics, have a sense of calm in a crisis, are capable of standing firm in spite of controversy, and share morals and ideals similar to mine. I feel this pair does.
I'm sure her gender had a lot to do with her being chosen... as people this time around finally seem ready to have a black or a woman on the ticket. I have to agree with Marilyn that Condi Rice seemed an obvious choice, but I've heard she didn't want it. I would have loved to see Collin Powell on the ballot, but he too decllined saying he didn't want to put himself or his family through it.
I'm glad we're finally seeing a bit more diversity being offered however it ends.
Emmsmom
08-30-2008, 09:30 AM
I think that Hillary, Condy, and MANY others have paved a way for women to take on important roles such as this. Who knows we might have a woman as the President one day. Imagine calling your hubby the First Man or First Husband. LOL
goofywife
08-30-2008, 06:11 PM
I believe that most women can multi task better than men. I also believe that its time for a women to be in charge. A lot of corporations have a women at the helm. From what I have seen from Sarah Palin. I think that Kay Bailey Hutchison or Condoleza Rice are good women and are great leaders. I also think Christine Whitman from NJ is good as well. Its time ladies for a women to straighten things out.
I really like that Palin has said no to big money and is not afraid to shake things up.
I do not like either of the candidates for president. I think that no matter which one gets in office, they will not be there for long. I am voting based on the vice president.
DianaB
08-30-2008, 07:51 PM
Let's keep in mind that McCain is 72 years old. This lady even as nice as she is has been govenor of a state with a population of 670,053 for one month longer than Obama has been running for President. Prior to that, she was the part time mayor of a small town of 6,700 people, and prior to that a city counsel member for that small town.
For comparison, the population of Memphis, Tennessee is 674,028.
Again, she may be a wonderful person, but there are a lot of wonderful people in the Republican party who are pro-life who have much more experience than this fine lady.
Who do you want to answer the phone at 3 a.m.? Sarah Palin, hockey mom and small town mayor/small state govenor, or someone with some years of experience with international relations.
Kay Bailey Hutchison or Condoleza Rice are fine Republican women with the right kind of experience. If we are looking at credentials and not just gender, there are lots of very qualified Republicans who I would much rather have answer that phone at 3 a.m.
She, again, may have a heart of gold, but is she ready to hold the most important elected position in the country, maybe in the world?
It really makes you wonder why her, why now? I'm all for women in high level positions in our government. I believe they bring wonderful qualities to the job, but when a woman is put in that position, it needs to be one who is extremely qualified and ready to perform the functions required of her, whatever they may be.
Never mind................
Marilyn
08-31-2008, 04:41 AM
Reason and logic are lost and so are we. Emotion rules.......
Emmsmom
08-31-2008, 05:23 AM
[QUOTE=goofywife;75291]I believe that most women can multi task better than men. [QUOTE]
I couldn't agree more! LOL :D I have often heard (and sadly from my hubby at times too) that we get too emotional when that time of the month comes. I also told him that maybe that is what we need. I expect sometime in the future we will find out. Like Tink said, more diversity is being offered now on BOTH sides. So I am sure it is just a matter of time.
Dobie
08-31-2008, 06:01 AM
I completey agree Marilyn - if he wanted to pick a woman, there are many out there that would come with better credentials for the position.
gja1000
08-31-2008, 07:36 AM
Palin is very charasmatic. We saw her on the TV all the time during our two week trip to Alaska this month. She is pretty, vivacious, articulate, smart, and outgoing. I can see why he would be drawn to her. Yet, I too, am worried about her lack of longterm governing experience. As they always say, "the VP is only a heartbeat away from the presidency".
She's not on my side of the ticket though, so I won't have to decide ....... ;)
DianaB
08-31-2008, 04:26 PM
I like everything that I've read about Sarah Palin. She sounds like a woman who can be a great leader and knows how to get things done. In her biography there's a long list of things that she's accomplished while being governor even though she's only been governor for two years.
We can talk about Sarah Palin's lack of experience but it also needs to be pointed out it that we're also accepting Obama as a presidential candidate with only 4 years of senate experience. It seems that this election there are several candidates with little experience.
Biography for Sarah Palin--
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/bio.html
Biography for Barack Obama--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama
Marilyn
09-01-2008, 01:53 PM
Diana, you have proven my point. If you read the bio's fully and honestly, with your mind wide open, comparing education, experience at the local, state, and federal levels, plus foreign relations experience. There is basically no comparison.
I know this is a cheap shot, but here's your future VP? and no this is not PhotoShopped. Hubby says he see's why McCain picked her:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a4py5G6PEss/SLofs6oDCmI/AAAAAAAABKg/phxYly-xJsg/s400/sarah-palin-hot.jpg
Guess it's no worse than Giuliani.
Marilyn
09-01-2008, 03:31 PM
There's one more thing that I wanted to say here, and then I'll try to be quiet. My comments are not meant to have anything to do with one party vs. another. To me, this issue is not partisan. The issue is that when we do have a woman in the White House, which I believe we may actually see in most of our lifetimes, whether she is Republican, Democrat, or Independant, she needs to be the best that we can put forward. For all of us, she needs to be superwoman. We surely don't want any question with regard to her ability to lead this country. Being a woman in a man's world career wise, I know that we are scrutanized more severely than our male counterparts. Any mistakes she makes will be chalked up to the fact that she's a woman. She will need to be a statesman with enough experience and confidence to stand up to other world leaders should the need arise. Palin may be our lady once she has some experience in federal government and international affairs under her belt.
By the way, I thought that Bill Clinton lacked the experience also because he was the governor of a low population state, and I voted against him, twice. I also thought that George W. and New Mexico Gov. Williamson are/were under qualified. To me, it's not a gender issue. It's who I think is best suited to lead this great nation.
Michelle ask for opinions, and I tried to voice mine in the most non-partisian way that I could. Now, I'll try to stay in my corner and be quiet.
I would think that in order to fairly compare the parties nominees, we'd have to compare presidential to presidential and VP to VP. OR rep presidential AND VP to Dem presidential AND VP.
I'm not "in love with" either pair, so what I have to go by is which I feel best represents my personal beliefs and ethics and would best represent my viewpoint in my stead. Experience to me isn't as important as the fact that they surround themselves by people who know what they don't and their basic personalities and temperaments are suitable for representing the image I would like the world to have of when they think US of A.
Emmsmom
09-01-2008, 04:01 PM
There's one more thing that I wanted to say here, and then I'll try to be quiet. My comments are not meant to have anything to do with one party vs. another. To me, this issue is not partisan. The issue is that when we do have a woman in the White House, which I believe we may actually see in most of our lifetimes, whether she is Republican, Democrat, or Independant, she needs to be the best that we can put forward. For all of us, she needs to be superwoman. We surely don't want any question with regard to her ability to lead this country. Being a woman in a man's world career wise, I know that we are scrutanized more severely than our male counterparts. Any mistakes she makes will be chalked up to the fact that she's a woman. She will need to be a statesman with enough experience and confidence to stand up to other world leaders should the need arise. Palin may be our lady once she has some experience in federal government and international affairs under her belt.
By the way, I thought that Bill Clinton lacked the experience also because he was the governor of a low population state, and I voted against him, twice. I also thought that George W. and New Mexico Gov. Williamson are/were under qualified. To me, it's not a gender issue. It's who I think is best suited to lead this great nation.
Michelle ask for opinions, and I tried to voice mine in the most non-partisian way that I could. Now, I'll try to stay in my corner and be quiet.
This is what I was looking for when I brought up this topic. :D I honestly didn't want this to be split down party lines. I do agree that Palin may not have very much experience under her belt but there is something about her that I like. Who knows I might be completely wrong about her. I will have to say that man or woman I don't really think anyone is truly ready to be president. All the experience in the world can not prepare someone for the huge responsibility that the office holds. I will say that I thought G.W Bush was VERY underqualified when he was elected. I think he has acomplished lot while in office. Certainly not all good. He has made some truly stupid moves. And I voted for him... go figure.:rolleyes:. I would love to see a woman running as an Independent for the office. Maybe some day. :)
Emmsmom
09-01-2008, 04:09 PM
I saw the picture of Palin. Yeah it does look a little crazy... but hey. She has been married for 20 years and has 5 kids. So she must be doing something right. I think her hubby is rather good looking. I might have put on a sexy dress too. I just wish I had a body like hers after only having one! LOL She was definately blessed in the dept. LOL
Michelle,
I absolutely do think a woman can hold down such high position. We have many women in government who have done wonderful things.
If you look outside of government, use Mother Theresa as an example. What a powerful human being!
I'm all for having a woman running the country. Although, I'm voting for Obama, I think choosing a woman was a wise choice for McCain. I do think he had better female choices, but that's not what your post was about.
Good luck to them all and let the best man/woman win!
DianaB
09-01-2008, 07:48 PM
.........I know this is a cheap shot, but here's your future VP? and no this is not PhotoShopped. Hubby says he see's why McCain picked her:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a4py5G6PEss/SLofs6oDCmI/AAAAAAAABKg/phxYly-xJsg/s400/sarah-palin-hot.jpg
Guess it's no worse than Giuliani.
The picture really was a "cheap shot", Marilyn. I imagine that every woman has a picture similiar to that somewhere in her past and there could be a really good reason as to why she was dressed like that.
My husband saw the picture and he said "She certainly gets my vote!!" So you've helped her out already with your post!!!! :sidesplit:
goofywife
09-01-2008, 08:10 PM
My husband was on his 4x4 forum and it is amazing how many are for Palin.
Some guys from Alaska jumped in on the conversation and were saying how the previous governor of Alaska hired her to clean up some of the corruption, when it linked to him he fired her. She got mad and ran against him and won! They are all saying Sarah Palin for President.
I am for that kind of change. I am tired of the good ol boy stuff, both republican and Democrat.
I know one thing, that is, for the first time in most of my adult life a Clinton nor Bush will be in charge.
That picture just shows a very attractive well put together woman who obviously has looks AND brains. I highly doubt that's her office attire. lol
People have said McCain lacks charisma... and now she's TOO attractive. It kind of proves people are just looking for things to criticize, now doesn't it?
Since we're told it's wrong to judge Obama based on his looks (color in particular) why is it ok to do it to the republicans? Fair is fair... even in politics.
After last night Sarah Parlin has my vote what an intelligent , articulate woman she is. IMO McCain knew what he was doing when he chose her..
jrsygal37
09-04-2008, 04:01 PM
Well coming from an animal activists point of view I'm not thrilled about opening up the newspaper and seeing her sitting on a dead bear. I'm also not thrilled about her stand on Polar Bears (see link below) AND I have to agree with Marilyn on what she said regarding her experience. However, honestly I think we are in trouble either way. You have McCain who is 72and who has a bad heart and the Sara as his running mate with the point made by Marilyn and then on the other hand you have Obama whose only experience is as a Junior Senator. I think we're in trouble no matter what. Just my .02.
Elaine
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