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AngieDoogles 04-05-2007 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by judy
As a New Yorker who lived through the RG administration, I will not be voting for him. He handled 9/11 beautifully - I'll give him that, but he's not a nice human being, doesn't care about the middle class, had no respect for teachers, firemen and cops, and cheated on his wife in public, in front of his children. I do think he has mob ties, by the way, but that's in the past. He did many other things in NYC that were really concerned with benefitting big business, and not New Yorkers. I have no idea who I will vote for though. I'm a Democrat and I think I'll be left with Hillary Clinton as a candidate. I have my reservations about her!

Judy:confused:

Wow, thanks for the insight Judy! Hillary is leading the democratic candidates so far, but not by much. 27% favor Hillary, 21% McCain, and 20% Obama. Those figures are a few days old, but it probably hasn't changed much and I don't remember where I saw it so I can't give proper citation. Sorry.

Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that Hillary is not the only democratic choice and these figures will definitely go up and down over the next year.

Janet 04-05-2007 10:16 AM

My only wish is that people would not vote along political lines. Maybe that's wrong and I don't want to debate it with anyone. I'm registered as a Republican, but I ALWAYS vote for who I think is the best choice for our country.

AngieDoogles 04-05-2007 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Janet
My only wish is that people would not vote along political lines. Maybe that's wrong and I don't want to debate it with anyone. I'm registered as a Republican, but I ALWAYS vote for who I think is the best choice for our country.

I agree completely Janet! There's so much more to a candidate than his/her party...but typically an affiliation can tell you where they stand on most issues. It's important to look at each individual though, as I mentioned in an earlier post on this thread. I was just trying to show that there are other democratic candidates besides Hillary. ;) I wasn't trying to start a debate either.

I'm glad you feel this way Janet. I think it's the best attitude to have.

Gina 04-05-2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Janet
My only wish is that people would not vote along political lines. Maybe that's wrong and I don't want to debate it with anyone. I'm registered as a Republican, but I ALWAYS vote for who I think is the best choice for our country.


I agree with you Janet, I am registered Democrat but I have been voting Republican over the years. I am so so on whom to vote for But I can assure you that Hillary will Never get my vote.. Her so called darling husband had a chance to stop the terriorsts after the first attack on the WTC but he did nothing. My husband was lucky he survived both attacks.

judy 04-06-2007 07:56 AM

Janet - I totally agree with you, but I do think our choices will be Rudy and Hillary. (Sorry Angie - I know you're hoping for Barak)
I might be wrong, it has certainly happened before, in which case, like you, I will not vote for party affiliation.

Judy

AngieDoogles 04-06-2007 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by judy
Janet - I totally agree with you, but I do think our choices will be Rudy and Hillary. (Sorry Angie - I know you're hoping for Barak)
I might be wrong, it has certainly happened before, in which case, like you, I will not vote for party affiliation.

Judy

Judy, I'm crushed!! Lol, just kidding. If nothing comes of Obama this time around, at least his name is out there now and he could definitely be a possibility in 2012. (Wow, that seems so far away...) You can never tell in politics. Things change so quickly!

judy 04-12-2007 01:17 PM

He does have charisma, but he's so unknown as YET. He's also quite good looking!
(Just a thought I have whenever I see him).

Judy

Passionfruition 04-12-2007 01:35 PM

Did you guys see this news about Giuliani not knowing the price milk and bread? I think it's scary that a candidate could be so out of touch with "normal American life" not to even know these prices.

Not that I'm against Rudy as a candidate.....I haven't even begun to make any decisions on that stuff yet! I think it's too early to tell. But this does worry me!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070410/...ni_groceries_1

Giuliani off the mark on grocery costs

By PHILLIP RAWLS, Associated Press Writer Tue Apr 10, 6:15 PM ET

MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery shopping lately ? at least based on his answers about the cost of milk and bread.

Campaigning in Alabama on Tuesday, the former New York City mayor portrayed himself as a fiscal conservative and an aggressive fighter of terrorism who has a lot in common with the Deep South state.

But when asked about more mundane matters ? like the price of some basic staples ? Giuliani had trouble with a reporter's question.

"A gallon of milk is probably about a $1.50, a loaf of bread about a $1.25, $1.30," he said.

A check of the Web site for D'Agostino supermarket on Manhattan's Upper East Side showed a gallon of milk priced at $4.19 and a loaf of white bread at $2.99 to $3.39. In Montgomery, Ala., a gallon of milk goes for about $3.39 and bread is about $2.

Giuliani was closer to the mark on the price of a gallon of gasoline.

"Gas, I think, is $2.89," he said

His difficulty with grocery items recalled another Republican's supermarket run-in. In 1992, President George H.W. Bush expressed amazement at a high-tech supermarket scanner, prompting critics to argue that he was out of touch with average Americans. The White House cried foul, pointing out that during a grocers' convention Bush had been impressed by a special scanner that could read torn labels.

Giuliani attended $1,000-per-person campaign fundraisers in Mobile and Montgomery before addressing a joint session of the Alabama Legislature that drew an overflow crowd.

Recalling that he worked in the Justice Department in President Reagan's administration, Giuliani said that like Reagan, he will not change course with the political winds.

"I'll set a course and stick with it. I'll be on offense on terrorism. I'll be a fiscal conservative. I'll lower taxes. I'll seek private market solutions to most problems," he told the Legislature.

The former mayor said he talked to radio host Don Imus, who has been suspended for two weeks for derogatory remarks about the Rutgers women's basketball team. Giuliani said he considers Imus' apology sincere.

"I would appear on his program again, sure. I take him at his word," Giuliani said.

Asked about the flying of the Confederate flag in some Southern states, Giuliani said, "That's a good thing to be left on a state-by-state basis."

Giuliani said he did not recall seeing a Confederate flag during his day in Alabama ? even though there was a display of four Confederate flags flying beside the Capitol.

The former mayor never mentioned his position on gay rights and abortion that separate him from traditional Republican voters in the state, but he said he would always be straight with voters.

"I will tell you what I believe. If you agree with it, fine. If you don't agree with it, you have a right not to agree with it. If you don't agree, you have a right not to vote for me," he said.

Marilyn 04-12-2007 05:11 PM

I can't criticize the guy for not knowing the price of milk or bread. I do most of our grocery shopping, and I could not have told you. They are things that we need, so I just go for 1% milk (preferrably organic) and white whole wheat bread and pay whatever it costs. Why bother looking, we have no control over the price. Now, other things where I have more choice, like meats and seafood, I look at the prices!!!

My big thing is where they have historically stood on key issues that are important for our nation. And I so hope you are wrong, Judy
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Originally Posted by Judy
....but I do think our choices will be Rudy and Hillary.

If those are our choices, I'll vote for someone else to make my point, "None of the Above"!!!

AngieDoogles 04-12-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Marilyn
If those are our choices, I'll vote for someone else to make my point, "None of the Above"!!!

lol, me too! Let's hope it doesn't come to that...

Chandra Amaya 04-13-2007 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Marilyn
I can't criticize the guy for not knowing the price of milk or bread. I do most of our grocery shopping, and I could not have told you. They are things that we need, so I just go for 1% milk (preferrably organic) and white whole wheat bread and pay whatever it costs. Why bother looking, we have no control over the price. Now, other things where I have more choice, like meats and seafood, I look at the prices!!!

My big thing is where they have historically stood on key issues that are important for our nation. And I so hope you are wrong, Judy

If those are our choices, I'll vote for someone else to make my point, "None of the Above"!!!

I completely agree Marilyn & not to sound sexist but men pay less attention than we do for things we need. I sent my hubby to get medicine when the kids & I were sick. He came back with all Tylenol brand medicines. I asked him how much he paid. He said "I don't know. I know I can trust the name & you guys needed it. Why would I care about the price?"


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