Tink, I'm glad that Katie wasn't in labor and that the baby's alright. What a scare! Still praying about the situation!

Oh wow, I just saw this. Thank you God for keeping Katie and the baby safe. I hope things get better for Katie and soon. She seems to be a smart young lady..so it may just be a matter of time for her and Josh.

Oh Tink - my heart goes out to you and to Katie. You know I have had similar issues
and understand how it is to have to stand on the edge of a cliff, not being able to say anything, while you watch your daughter falling off that edge. I will be praying for all of you and am going to light a candle for Katie's situation now.

Tink I am sorry to hear what is going on with Katie and Josh. I hope that God will shed some light and lead your daughter in the right direction. Being a mom it hurts to sit back and not say anything. My prayers are with you.

I decided today to do some research into our "problem persons" criminal history. I knew we weren't dealing with Mother Theresa, but even I was surprised at what I found. This is all between 1999 to 2005! Anything from before he was 18 doesn't show in public records... so that's not even included.

We knew about one prison sentence... there have been three. 12 months twice, and 18 months the 3rd time.
Plus a few local jail stays of up to 6 months at a time.

1 Assault by Prisoner- while in correctional facility- felony
1 Bail Jumping-felony
4 counts of battery
8 counts of Disorderly Conduct
1 Retail Theft
1 Substantial Battery-Intend Bodily Harm Felony
1 Take and Drive Vehicle w/o Consent Felony
1 Trespass to land

Oh, Tink, you've got to get her away from him somehow. Is there a women's crisis shelter nearby? Perhaps she could stay there for a while. I don't really know the solution, just want you to know you and all involved are in my prayers.

Tink, does Katie know ALL this? I think it's time you sit down with Katie, not as a mother, but as an older, wiser person and ask her if this is the kind of example she wants for her child(ren). She needs to think long and hard about situations that are so similiar to hers. It will be easier for her to get out now instead of waiting. He obviously has no respect for her if the other two 'friends' were involved. All I can do is pray for her Tink...and you know I will. Is there a Pastor or someone else that will come talk with her?

Tink, that's scary to think of all the trouble he's been in with the law! Katie needs to be informed of the situation and make some decisions. Not just for her but for her baby as well.

Pond scum is a good name. I hope Katie is not deluding herself because she wants the "happily ever after" she thought she was getting. There's also the problem of pregnancy hormones.

Point being, Tink, be patient and kind to her because it has been my experience that they only see what they want when they want. After she has the baby, God willing, he may just take off.

Thanks ladies.
With his record being what it is, it looks like the only time he's kept from getting into more trouble is when he's been incarcerated... and he even managed to mess up there! So I'm expecting he will get sent away again... it's only a matter of time... and I really pray Katie isn't his next battery target.

I'd be surprised if Katie doesn't know most of it. she has a fascination for checking people out on the circuit court site... andthat's where I got all this info on him. I'm not sure she'd take the time to sit and sift through it all like I did, but it's available to her if she chooses to. Shannon and Joel are going to try to talk with her about this and see if she's aware that he's been in THIS deep. Hopefully she will listen to them more than to me. They too are really scared for her.

Katie better not be his next target! What a skanky little cowardly creep he is. Hopefully, the responsibility of a baby will send him running before any damage is done to her.

LOLOL....don't hold back Judy...say what you mean....:sidesplit:

You're right Janet! Let's all jump on that magic bus and grab his skanky little butt and escort him out of the country for good!

Maybe we need to have our meetup in Rural Wisconsin!!!!

I'd help you all kidnap her and sneak her away... at least with you ladies I know she's be safe and hearing the voices of reason!