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AngieDoogles 02-07-2008 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Marilyn
:eek: May :eek: This just emphasizes my point. Most of the country will have already had their primaries and a lot of folks will make up their mind based on what the rest of the country did rather than all of us deciding on our own and voting at once. We won't even have a chance to vote on the candidates who already dropped out!!!

This needs to change!!!

You know what frustrates me even more than this? The whole super delegate thing! :mad: How ridiculous is it that 800 people each get a vote that counts practically the same as a whole precinct?! What's the point in having primaries if they're going to disregard what we say anyway... :thumbdwn:

But yes, I also agree that it would be much better to have all of the primaries and caucuses at the same time. It'd be much more fair to all of the candidates AND voters that way. But I doubt the parties would ever go for it. They don't seem to like changes like that. Just look what the democratic party did to Florida over the voting schedule...

HALEY 02-14-2008 05:09 AM

If Obama wins i believe were all in trouble, i just feel that he is so anti-american, i just read alot of bad stuff about him.....

AngieDoogles 02-14-2008 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HALEY
If Obama wins i believe were all in trouble, i just feel that he is so anti-american, i just read alot of bad stuff about him.....

If the bad stuff is that he is Muslim and supports terrorists and such, I suggest you do a quick Snopes search and you'll see that it was all lies made up to turn the populace against him. The rumors have been dispelled, but that doesn't keep them from circulating unfortunately... :(

HALEY 02-14-2008 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AngieDoogles
If the bad stuff is that he is Muslim and supports terrorists and such, I suggest you do a quick Snopes search and you'll see that it was all lies made up to turn the populace against him. The rumors have been dispelled, but that doesn't keep them from circulating unfortunately... :(

sorry i just would never vote for him, i just don't like him at all..

AngieDoogles 02-14-2008 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HALEY
sorry i just would never vote for him, i just don't like him at all..

That's fine. That's the great thing about America. We all get to have our own opinion and vote. :) I just hate to see when someone has been misinformed and hope you will research so that you can get a better understanding of the candidates. Sometimes it's hard to see the truth when there are so many rumors... Snopes and FactCheck.org are good unbiased sources. :)

HALEY 02-14-2008 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AngieDoogles
That's fine. That's the great thing about America. We all get to have our own opinion and vote. :) I just hate to see when someone has been misinformed and hope you will research so that you can get a better understanding of the candidates. Sometimes it's hard to see the truth when there are so many rumors... Snopes and FactCheck.org are good unbiased sources. :)

besides i would love to see a woman president, men screwed up this country and i believe a woman can fix it....

AngieDoogles 02-14-2008 08:32 AM

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/church.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kkk.asp

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

All of these accusations are false.

AngieDoogles 02-14-2008 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HALEY
besides i would love to see a woman president, men screwed up this country and i believe a woman can fix it....

I'd LOVE to see a woman president as well...just not Hilary. ;) :D

HALEY 02-14-2008 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AngieDoogles
I'd LOVE to see a woman president as well...just not Hilary. ;) :D

i will always like Hilary, don't care for her husband, but she's ok in my book!

AngieDoogles 02-14-2008 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HALEY
i will always like Hilary, don't care for her husband, but she's ok in my book!

I think PA will go for Hilary. My MIL is an avid Hilary supporter as well. Almost everyone I know in PA is. lol

cindy0721 02-14-2008 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AngieDoogles
I'd LOVE to see a woman president as well...just not Hilary. ;) :D


I AGREE just not here.. she literally is a PERFECT example of not having your own voice... she voted for the war on IRAQ... she voted for the border fence, she voted for the high tax break to million dollar companies.. and now she retracts and says she is not for it... geez... stick to your guns...

I LOVE OBAMA.... he says what he thinks and believes and sticks to it come hell or high water.... he is so sincere and I believe he HAS WHAT IT TAKES to CHANGE THIS THING AROUND and bring people of all parties together~:thumbup: :thumbup:


I can't wait til we vote on the 4th!

AngieDoogles 02-14-2008 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cindy0721
I AGREE just not here.. she literally is a PERFECT example of not having your own voice... she voted for the war on IRAQ... she voted for the border fence, she voted for the high tax break to million dollar companies.. and now she retracts and says she is not for it... geez... stick to your guns...

I LOVE OBAMA.... he says what he thinks and believes and sticks to it come hell or high water.... he is so sincere and I believe he HAS WHAT IT TAKES to CHANGE THIS THING AROUND and bring people of all parties together~:thumbup: :thumbup:


I can't wait til we vote on the 4th!


Great point! I think Hilary is MUCH too divisive. We need a nation united, not divided. We need to work for bipartisanism, not alienate those with differences. In every speech I've seen of Hilary's (and trust me, I've seen A LOT!), I can't help but notice how she alienates anyone who doesn't agree with her 100%. We can accomplish so much more if we work together--and by "we" I mean Democrats, Republicans, AND the American public. No need to focus on the differences when we have so many things in common. Just my two cents.

Rhonda 02-14-2008 01:12 PM

:rolleyes: The thing with Hillary is in her statements it is always I I I I I well this I has a problem with anyone male or female.

I agree with most women when they say this country is ready for a female president just not that female.

:rolleyes:

cindy0721 02-14-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HALEY
i will always like Hilary, don't care for her husband, but she's ok in my book!

but its almost known that her hubby will have a input in this election too... think about it.. he is obviously VERY involved in her campaign.. what makes you think it will change IF she becomes president? :eek:

Marilyn 02-14-2008 09:06 PM

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Here's a pic that emphasizes what I said about Hillary and the Latino vote here in Texas. Some people say that hispanics even have pictures of President Clinton in their living rooms like they do La Virgen de Guadalupe. She's making quite a run in South Texas this week. Surprisingly thought, I have been seeing some Latinos endorsing Obama. It may be a close race even here!!
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By the way, the reason that some of the Republican states are swing states for the Democrates is that with the Democratic candidates so close, even the delegates from the Republican states are important to the result. I too don't like the super delegate method. That seem sooo unfair to the popular vote.


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