Just weird

[Ponyup]

I have no problem with people finding refuge in the united states. I do however, think that they should be required to learn the language, not be eligible for our welfare system, & not require that we change our traditions & customs to fit theres. If I moved to Mexio I would be expected to learn Spanish & adapt to their way of life. Why are we any different?

[Tink]

Wisconsin doesn't have welfare... maybe that's one of the reasons I see this differently than many of you. Here welfare was replaced by workfare. If you want help you must be working a minimum of 20 hrs a week to qualify. A married couple applying must BOTH work at least 20 hrs a week. If you can't find work, they will find it for you and you either take it or you go without.

I just can't understand how anyone can feel that any nationality is more entitled than another. There are good and bad people in every group. We all have our share of deadbeats who refuse to work, but in the local mexican population I don't see them. These people who come to my bank are working very hard for their checks and then can't cash them!

Several of them are learning english and proudly show me the progress they've made when they come into the bank. One young man asks often if his pronunciation is improving... and then laughed when I was trying to learn how to say his name (Juvenal which is pronounced hubenaal) because he said americans can't say it. I was determined to, since I don't want to keep thinking of him as Juvenile... LOL which is the closest I was able to get without his help.

Truly, the Mexicans I come into contact with are trying... and are building relationships with us in the process. It makes me sad and a bit embarrassed to have to keep saying no to their efforts. The whole situation is just a bit weird for a Wisconsin farm girl to get a grip on. I wish they were all LEGAL so it just wasn't an issue.

[Gina]

Gutu29, I also like Janet had to think before I posted on this forum again. First do not that feel offended. I am italian american decent. The italians were shunned by also many years ago. They came into this country but legally though they had to be sponsored by someone living in the US. They didnt know the language either. It was very hard. I am speaking not only for my family but for many italians. They came through Ellis Island in NYC. They were branded as WOPS, without papers is its translation. I hate that word it is so degrading. They were shunned out of big corporations, and laughed upon and called grease balls etc. my uncles were not allowed to go to college unless your family could pay your way. Be happy that the laws have changed and the foriengers today get everything. The italians were always hard working people, and they never took anything from anyone. The american dream was for them to own their own home. In which they worked hard and achieved. They paid their retrobution to society. So I to feel when different enthics groups come to this country and they feel they deserve to get benefits it does bother me big time. I was born and raised in this country and I am a proud American. I don't want anyone to take what I said out of context I am just explaining to Gutu29 that she should not feel that way because others before her suffered too..As long as you go through the right channel you to have every right to belong here..

[Marilyn]

Tink, do they not have check cashing companies in Wisconsin?? Here we have companies like "Mr. Payroll" who will cash most any check for a fee. The illegals, people in trouble with the IRS or in trouble with bill collectors use these companies. There are several in our town. No problem getting a check cashed without a bank account here, just have to pay 8% or so.

[khardy57]

I also had to think about this before responding. My ancestors were Cherokee indian and Irish. The Cherokee were decimated on the infamous Trail of Tears and the Irish were discrimiated against when they first came to America.

I spent 10 years as a single parent and was unable to receive any type of public assistance because my ex had my children on his insurance. I lived for 2 years on $50.00/week so I could go back to school. I know all about hard times and I resent seeing people who are here illegally receiving what I was unable to.

Your situation is definitely different because your parents went about it the right way.

[Tink]

Marilyn, we don't have anything like that here. We have to drive 35 miles to get to any city bigger than 2500 people. We have 3 banks and a credit union in town, but they all require similar things to open an account and won't cash a check with out one.

[Marilyn]

Originally Posted by Tink

Marilyn, we don't have anything like that here. We have to drive 35 miles to get to any city bigger than 2500 people. We have 3 banks and a credit union in town, but they all require similar things to open an account and won't cash a check with out one.

Someone is bound to start a business like this soon in your area, if it's legal in your state. Where there is demand, supply will shortly follow.