Wamu-biggest Bank To Fail In Us History!

[HALEY]

Originally Posted by gja1000

A friend of mine sent this along - something to think about

The Common Sense Fix

Years of bad decisions and stupid mistakes have created an economic nightmare in this country, but $700 billion in new debt is not the answer. As a tax-paying American citizen, I will not support any congressperson who votes to implement such a policy. Instead, I submit the following three- step Common Sense Plan.

I. INSURANCE
a. Insure the subprime bonds/mortgages with an underlying FHA-type insurance.
Government-insured and backed loans would have an instant market all over the
world, creating immediate and needed liquidity.

b. In order for a company to accept the government-backed insurance, they must do two things:

1. Rewrite any mortgage that is more than three months delinquent to a
6% fixed-rate mortgage

a. Roll all back payments with no late fees or legal costs into the
balance. This brings homeowners current and allows them a
chance to keep their homes.

b. Cancel all prepayment penalties to encourage refinancing or
the sale of the property to pay off the bad loan. In the event of
foreclosure or short sale, the borrower will not be held liable
for any deficit balance. FHA does this now, and that
encourages mortgage companies to go the extra mile while
working with the borrower—again limiting foreclosures and
ruined lives.

2. Cancel ALL golden parachutes of EXISTING and FUTURE CEOs and
executive team members as long as the company holds these
government-insured bonds/mortgages. This keeps underperforming
executives from being paid when they don’t do their jobs.
c. This backstop will cost less than $50 billion—a small fraction of the current proposal.

II. MARK TO MARKET
a. Remove mark to market accounting rules for two years on only subprime Tier III
bonds/mortgages. This keeps companies from being forced to artificially mark down
bonds/mortgages below the value of the underlying mortgages and real estate.
b. This move creates patience in the market and has an immediate stabilizing effect on
failing and ailing banks—and it costs the taxpayer nothing.

III. CAPITAL GAINS TAX
a. Remove the capital gains tax completely. Investors will flood the real estate and stock market in search of tax-free profits, creating tremendous—and immediate—liquidity in the markets. Again, this costs the taxpayer nothing.

b. This move will be seen as a lightning rod politically because many will say it is helping the rich. The truth is the rich will benefit, but it will be their money that stimulates the economy. This will enable all Americans to have more stable jobs and retirement investments that go up instead of down.

This is not a time for envy, and it’s not a time for politics. It’s time for all of us, as Americans, to stand up, speak out, and fix this mess.

Im sorry Gayle i didn't know this was the same one that i posted !!

[Ponyup]

I blame my generation. I have friends that couldn't make a house payment up & moved & got another loan for another house & thought that is okay. They have over 200,000 in credit card debt. I'm just so happy that I married a wonderful man that knew what he was doing. We buy everything with credit card, but pay it off at the end of the month. We use the credit cards money for free while our money makes interest in a saving account. He has excellent credit, I'm building mine slowly. We put 30% down on our first house....which was a small, inexpensive starter home. I don't understand how people can get loans for these giant houses they are building. My husband told me that your house payment should only be 15-20% of your monthly wage. I'm sure these houses I see are way more than that. I just don't understand why banks give these kinds of loans. It's like you're preying on people. You know quite well they can't afford those payments, but they don't care....they just want your money. I agree it was the greed of these large banks that did us in. I've never been so happy to be from a small town & how my mortgage with a small locally owned bank that actually cares about people.

[HALEY]

It's because the banks got greedy and gave out way to may loans to people that didn't have good credit with hardly no money down, and your right your total income should only be a small percentage for your house payment.
I don't believe it's totally your generations, we have guys here at work in the 50's losing there houses, believe me they have a good job and could afford there house payments, but they had to have nice new cars for there wive's to drive ( and most of there wive's don't work mind you) they needed boats, motorcycles, quads, more toys that they can't afford.. oh the list goes on. they wanted to be the Jones living next door.. we'll i think they should sell there "toys" and get out of dept. No i don't feel sorry for these guys at all. there the ones that made there mess by getting loans on top of loans and borrowing against there houses for these "toys"..

[Ponyup]

Originally Posted by HALEY

It's because the banks got greedy and gave out way to may loans to people that didn't have good credit with hardly no money down, and your right your total income should only be a small percentage for your house payment.
I don't believe it's totally your generations, we have guys here at work in the 50's losing there houses, believe me they have a good job and could afford there house payments, but they had to have nice new cars for there wive's to drive ( and most of there wive's don't work mind you) they needed boats, motorcycles, quads, more toys that they can't afford.. oh the list goes on. they wanted to be the Jones living next door.. we'll i think they should sell there "toys" and get out of dept. No i don't feel sorry for these guys at all. there the ones that made there mess by getting loans on top of loans and borrowing against there houses for these "toys"..

This sounds like our best couple friends. The guy still has student loans, but they are buying a boat. They don't even have funiture in there house & parts of it are unfinished & they are buying a boat. I just don't get. But my husband tells me that everyone has different priorities in life & we can't live other people's lives for them.

[HALEY]

I know i don't understand it either, many people don't put there priorities first!
I still live in my little house that i got for an estate sale 4 years ago, and yes i would love to have a bigger house one day, but i can't afford it now, i want at least 40,000 in my savings account for the down payment and to pay two house payments until i sell my other house.
My brother for one is totally different he borrowed twice against his house to pay off credit cards and his wife charged them all back up again, and she has to have a new vechicle every five years or she is not happy.. and yes they have toys too.
i would love to have a new truck, but i got my SUV that was within my budget and yes i got a used one.. and My husband and i both work!!!
My brother will probably be going into forclosure soon, i suggested his wife get off her butt and go get a job... boy did i get the dirty looks.. oh well there is nothing wrong with her working... I really don't understand what people are thinking when they get all these loans that they can't afford, do they thinkg they don't have to pay them back or what??? I'm just confussed, when i want to purchase something like a car i redo my budget and see if i could afford it or not... and i don't include my husbands overtime in the budget, cause ot is unpredictible.. especially in construction.

[gja1000]

Originally Posted by HALEY

... I really don't understand what people are thinking when they get all these loans that they can't afford, do they think they don't have to pay them back or what???

Yes! I'm convinced that many people KNOW they won't actually have to pay back the loans. Just listen to the commercials for debt reduction, e.g., "YES, you will only have to pay back pennies on the dollar of what you owe"!!! I hear that several times a day on both radio and TV. So, why in the world would people think they will really have to pay back the loan, when they hear that they won't. Also, anyone can (well could) get a loan, you hear those commercials too - "You CAN buy XXX even with bad credit!" I hear that too every day - so why in the world are we surprised that we are in this mess.

[HALEY]

Originally Posted by gja1000

Yes! I'm convinced that many people KNOW they won't actually have to pay back the loans. Just listen to the commercials for debt reduction, e.g., "YES, you will only have to pay back pennies on the dollar of what you owe"!!! I hear that several times a day on both radio and TV. So, why in the world would people think they will really have to pay back the loan, when they hear that they won't. Also, anyone can (well could) get a loan, you hear those commercials too - "You CAN buy XXX even with bad credit!" I hear that too every day - so why in the world are we surprised that we are in this mess.

Gayle i thank God for my sister and mother everyday, for teaching me how to save and manage my money, i remember the first credit card i got i maxed it and went out and got more credit cards, i had about 5 of them, all with balances and a 5.00 an hour job, i was in tears didn't know how i was going to pay them back, my mother took all my credit cards and cut them up, and showed me for the first time at the age of 18, to manage money, it took me two years to get those credit cards paid off, still today, i have one credit card now with a balance on it, and have two back up ones with zero balance on it... I like to pay cash but sometimes you can't but always make sure you have the money to pay them off when the bill comes in... My mother never had a credit card in her life and she still to today don't own one...