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There would be a LOT less shoplifting done if thats the punishment they get, so yes, i would vote all for it.
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I think most of us think it is okay. Even the ones who don't probably do and don't realize it. If they make their children go back and apologize for whatever...it's pretty much the same thing in my book. Maybe we should go back to courthouse lawn beatings....what humiliation!
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Maybe once they're humiliated it would put a stop to them doing it again and it would help to keep them out of jail. It could help with kids who shop lift. Who would want to stand in front of a mall with a sign that says "I'm a shop lifter!" when all of your friends are walking by? It just might work!!
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Hey Angie, that must be really hard on you both. I am so sorry to hear that she is like this. I wonder what made her so. I have been studying the US laws with some of my students and with some friends whose sons are struggling to stay out of jail. Our system doesn't seem to work very well much of the time. What do you think should change?
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Some people don't open themselves to change at all until they are forced to do so. such a sad way to live.
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I've been watching a lot of Dr. Phil and it sounds like she has the "anger disease." Or, it might have been Keith Ablow's show. It sounds like she needs meds, but probably won't take them. Probably your best plan would be to keep out of her way. Poor Brendon being raised with her around! He certainly turned out fine though. Oh, and I don't believe in public humiliation. Of course, in NYC, who would even notice someone walking around with a sign that they're a shoplifter. Even if we did notice, it's not something most New Yorkers would even process, much less care about.
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I had a neighbor/co-worker who I have long since lost track of who's mother taught her and her siblings to shoplift. No WAY would she spend any money on them, so if they wanted something she told them they'd better take it and not get caught. She too was a very odd person (the mother, not daughter). She'd been married many times, stole from anyone unlucky enough to turn their back on her and never felt any of it was wrong.
My neighbor left home at 14 because she felt she would do better on her own. When I met her she was well into her 40's and while she wasn't nearly as bad as her mother... who I did eventually meet, she had some really warped ideas on how to live. At one point she was in court fighting the federal govenment because they were trying to kick her and her tent off federal land where she'd been living for several months. Another time she lived on a beach in her pick up truck and spent her last 5 dollars to buy a bottle of booze. I got to know her when she married (her first marriage) a man 12 yrs her junior who I worked with on the local ambulance service and lived near. She was interesting, and if she liked you she didn't steal from you, but she did have a very warped sense of entitlment and refused to ever work full time. So Angie, your MIL isn't alone, but it's hard to deal with people like that for sure.
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