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Old 03-17-2012, 10:06 AM   #1
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Brandon was in a very good hospital, but it is in Albany, a large city. They are all understaffed. She had to be there 24/7. If she had not insisted and fought for CAT scan, they would not have found what was wrong with him. The physician on the floor also sent him home without one medication, and an undated prescription for pain meds, which could not be filled legally. Luckily, the surgeon is a wonderful doctor who called to see how he was and is going to straighten everything out.

Brandon's roommate was an 8 week old baby who was so abused by her father. It was on the news, and is in all of the newspapers. Jessie wanted to take her home! The doctors were discussing giving her morphine because she was crying.
She does have a lot of damage, but one nurse carried her whenever she could get time, and she stopped crying. Babies need to be held,not given morphine!

How is your national health plan, Diana? I find the Obamacare plan very confusing, and I really do not know what is offered by it. A lot of people here are very much against it. Do gov't health plans work out well?
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:14 PM   #2
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Judy, I can tell you about the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare. It really is insurance reform and it is nothing like national health insurance as Diane describes. The Affordable Care Act is a start, but more needs to be done. It has some really good aspects, in my opinion. When fully enacted, insurance companies will no longer be able to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions and there will be no lifetime cap on the amount of insurance benefits (often $500,000 or $1,000,000 a which sounds like a lot but really isn't when you have lots of problems like Gary). These two things alone are a godsend for many people. it also mandates that insurance companies have to pay for health promotion because a part of the Act is to try to save money by getting people tne care they need before they get chronically ill and by providing health promotion. It also requires insurance companies to allow parents to keep unmarried children on their policies till 25 or 26 (I forget which). This is really great because so many college students are uninsured. It increases the amount that Medicare Part D pays for prescription meds and reduces the out of pocket expenses.

The controversial part is that everyone will have to buy health insurance - but heck, everyone has to buy auto insurance so why not health insurance. This will partially be accomplished by increasing the Medicaid eligible numbers. Right now, you have to be very very poor to get on Medicaid, it's currently like 200% of poverty and that will change to 144% of poverty, so tha people with low incomes will not have to buy insurance, they will be eligible for Medicaid. Many people don't like this, but I think it's OK (thats because i see what happens when people cant get health care till they are severely ill). People with incomes near the poverty do not have money to buy insurance. This is part of the Act that is being challenged by several states. The Supreme court will hear these two challenges (the individual mandate and increasing the numbers eligible for Medicaid) week after next, March 25 & 26, I think.

Others who don't have insurance through their employers will be able to buy low cost insurance though insurance exchanges (states can band together or go it alone to create an insurance exchange so that the rates are affordable). This is much the same as those who have to pay some or all of their insurance premiums through their employer. It really isn't any different than that. There are other aspects in the Act, but basically these are the aspects that affect the populace.

A really good source of information is the Kaiser Family Foundation. If you google Kaiser & Affordable Care Act, you will get lots of links that summarize the provisions in the act in plain speak. I have a couple of sets of slides that I can post that also summarize the act pretty well.
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:20 PM   #3
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Brandon was in a very good hospital, but it is in Albany, a large city. They are all understaffed. She had to be there 24/7. If she had not insisted and fought for CAT scan, they would not have found what was wrong with him. The physician on the floor also sent him home without one medication, and an undated prescription for pain meds, which could not be filled legally. Luckily, the surgeon is a wonderful doctor who called to see how he was and is going to straighten everything out.

Brandon's roommate was an 8 week old baby who was so abused by her father. It was on the news, and is in all of the newspapers. Jessie wanted to take her home! The doctors were discussing giving her morphine because she was crying.
She does have a lot of damage, but one nurse carried her whenever she could get time, and she stopped crying. Babies need to be held,not given morphine!

How is your national health plan, Diana? I find the Obamacare plan very confusing, and I really do not know what is offered by it. A lot of people here are very much against it. Do gov't health plans work out well?
Judy..... I have never known any difference than what we have now, our national health service, covers everything at the point of need. We get free access to Dr's and hospitals, 24 hours a day, i am very proud of our health providers, they do tremendous work, under difficult circumstances sometimes. We pay for our prescriptions = 1 item is currently £7.40, unless you are on low income, or have certain medical exemption, like being diabetic for example.
We pay national health contributions through our salary, it is a percentage, not sure how it is worked out.
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:41 PM   #4
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I would love to have your medical system Diane W. I don't think the Obama is a bad plan. Those who are against them are those who own their own company. I also think they need to work on it a bit more to keep every side happy.

I have been without insurance for years now. If I get insurance from my employer that's half my pay. My boys qualify for CHIP and I pay a monthly premium so I'm happy with that. But once my boy had to had stitches and that cost me $2000 out of pocket and he didn't even get a room in the hospital. They clean him up and staple him with no anesthesia or numb med.
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Old 03-17-2012, 08:25 PM   #5
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That's terrible Jessica! Will you have better medical care under the Obama plan?

Thanks for the explanation Gayle! I have insurance, plus Medicare now, so I am very lucky!!!! I did start using the Part D of Medicare, and the one prescriptiom was only $1.50 co-pay instead of $5.00. CVS used to charge me $17.00 for my co-pay. I changed to our local pharmacy, which is much cheaper.

I get most of my prescriptions by mail. I don't know what the co-pay will cost this month since I began Medicare. It usually costs me about $10/3 month supply. I cannot complain!!! The only thing that is more is Nexium for $40/3 months. I tried the otc and I think the Nexium works better for me.

I would not mind contributing some so that everybody has affordable health insurance. I am of the "it takes a village to raise a child"m philosophy, and feel that we all have to take care of each other.
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:18 PM   #6
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I have not read too much on the Obama plan but hopefully it's something better than what I have. They were going to implement a law that anyone who benefits from the government should be drug tested. I was all for it but I really don't know what happen or was it just hear say.
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