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Sorry, but I couldn't pass this up. You say this is a land of free speech. Yes, it's your right to say Merry Christmas, but it's also the checker's right to say Happy Holidays. You can't argue free speech and then yell at someone for exercising the right themself. Let's be honest with ourselves. Christmas is a pagan holiday that was adopted by the Roman church to win over more followers that didn't want to give up their holidays. Christmas was a celebration of the Winter Solstice and many pagan's held celebrations around that time. Easter is the Spring Equinox. The Christians appropriated many pagan festivals and traditions of the season, that were practiced in many parts of the Middle East and Europe, as a means of stamping them out. There were mid-winter festivals in ancient Babylon and Egypt, and Germanic fertility festivals also took place at this time. The birth of the ancient sun-god Attis in Phrygia was celebrated on December 25th, as was the birth of the Persian sun-god, Mithras. The Romans celebrated Saturnalia, a festival dedicated to Saturn, the god of peace and plenty, that ran from the 17th to 24th of December. Public gathering places were decorated with flowers, gifts and candles were exchanged and the population, slaves and masters alike, celebrated the occasion with great enthusiasm. The earliest English reference to December 25th as Christmas Day did not come until 1043. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an athiest. I'm one of those Christians that doesn't live her life as a contradiction. I follow the Bible and nothing but the Bible, and we were not instructed or authorized to set apart a day to celebrate Christ's birth, we were told to celebrate his death in weekly Communion. To me Christmas isn't about Christ, it's a time to get together with your family. So for me, it's a hearty Happy Chrismahanukwanzika to all.
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You say this is a land of free speech. Yes, it's your right to say Merry Christmas, but it's also the checker's right to say Happy Holidays. You can't argue free speech and then yell at someone for exercising the right themself. Yes, you are absolutely right! But, the checkers DON'T have a choice...they are told my their employers that they HAVE to say Happy Holidays...My gripe isn't the fact of saying Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays...My gripe is that this has only happened since all of this "political correctness" has come about....Never in my life have I ever heard someone be upset because someone said Merry Christmas,...If I said (which I have done)Merry Christmas to someone that didn't celebrate the holiday and they TOLD me they were Jewish, or another religion that didn't celebrate Christmas I would apologize and with them Happy Holidays....But..DON'T get in my face (talking hypothetically here) and tell me I am insulting you by saying Merry Christmas...This is the way I was brought up and this is the way I am going to stay....All this "political correctness C**P" is just insane...Let's go back to the way it was when I was in high school.....30yrs ago!
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You say this is a land of free speech. Yes, it's your right to say Merry Christmas, but it's also the checker's right to say Happy Holidays. You can't argue free speech and then yell at someone for exercising the right themself. Yes, you are absolutely right! But, the checkers DON'T have a choice...they are told my their employers that they HAVE to say Happy Holidays...My gripe isn't the fact of saying Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays...My gripe is that this has only happened since all of this "political correctness" has come about....Never in my life have I ever heard someone be upset because someone said Merry Christmas,...If I said (which I have done)Merry Christmas to someone that didn't celebrate the holiday and they TOLD me they were Jewish, or another religion that didn't celebrate Christmas I would apologize and wish them Happy Holidays....But..DON'T get in my face (talking hypothetically here) and tell me I am insulting you by saying Merry Christmas...This is the way I was brought up and this is the way I am going to stay....All this "political correctness C**P" is just insane...Let's go back to the way it was when I was in high school.....30yrs ago! That's when everyone got along, we had the pledge of allegiance, if you wanted to pray in school you could...I had friends that brought bibles to school...Today if a child brought a bible to school and parent that didn't think that was appropriate would be at the school in a heartbeat....what the HELL is wrong with people today...
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So, being that I am dating a Jewish guy, I have to give my two cents. What if the checker is Jewish? Christmas is not celebrated by Jews, so they have the right to say Happy Holidays. I've always said "Have a great holiday." It's not to be PC, because I say how I feel, I just say it because there are a lot of different cultures in the United States. On Christmas Day, I do say "Merry Christmas" to everyone, but why is it such a huge problem that people say Happy Holidays???? What if they celebrate Kwanzaa (sp) or Hannukah??? They HAVE to say Merry Christmas just because you said it? Not in my book they don't.
If people are saying "Happy Holiday" for PC reasons, that's retarded... I agree. But there are people that do not celebrate Christmas and you shouldn't expect them to say Merry Christmas. Oh, and what about Jahovah's Witnesses... who don't celebrate holidays at all? Like I said, just my two cents. If you get pi$$ed at me, that's fine. So as Old Navy says: Happymerry Christmahannakwanzakah to everyone!!!
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I'm not getting mad at anybody! I take it you didn't read my original post..I have friends that are Jehovah' Witnesses and my doctor is Jewish...I DO NOT get upset because they don't say Merry Christmas...that wasn't what I said...If someone is Jewish and I KNOW they are Jewish I would never expect them to wish me Merry Christmas...But, to get down right angry because it's not Politically Correct is not right...And....I have seen this happen...All I said was I don't want people in my face if I say Merry Christmas...this is MY RIGHT.. I'm not upset with anyone here...this is a forum and everyone is entitled to their own opinion..and that was mine. I also posted this on YT...I'm sorry if I offended you.
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Sorry for the confusion... it's been a long week. And hey, MERRY CHRISTMAS to you, Brenda.
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Merry Christmas to you too!
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Enjoy your holiday season, we will, with Christmas tree, gifts and all, but we will be celebrating the birth of Christ daily by trying to be like him and trying doing his Father's will to the very best of our ability by studying and following God's Word & not the opinions of men. We pray that all of you will, too. It is our desire to deal with all people with love, and understanding, so you have every right to say what you want, as do we.
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I say Merry Chritmas...I have jewish friends that also say Merry chritmas because they know i celibrate it...I also say happy Hanuka! I think Happy Holidays is not offensive, but I have no problem nameing the Holidays either... I say Merry Christmas to every one... it's the Christmas season after all!!!!
I think it gets confusing with all this political corret stuff...When I was growing up you said retarded... Not Mentaly Chalenged... You said Black...Not African American... Merry Christmas...Not Happy Holidays!!!! I understand there are other ways to put these things but I don't think it should be considered RUDE to say things we were raised to say! I is hard to remember some times and then you feel bad for not saying the right hting... or you are wondering if what you said was ok.... It makes it uncomforable while you are just trying to TALK to some one and get to know them better! I hope this doesnt offend any one... JMO
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I agree!
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MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!! From my Christmas celebrating house to yours!
And for those of you who would be interested....I invite ALL of you to my house next December (first weekend in December) to come and watch the Bethleham walk!! It is an awesome experience and leaves NO QUESTION as to what the TRUE reason for Christmas is...a tiny baby born to us to give us the greatest gift that anyone has ever given...his very own life. |
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