First Grade Girl....

[AngieDoogles]

Originally Posted by highlans

Sorry but how old is first grade?

1st graders are six to seven years old.

[Chandra Amaya]

I'm sorry I did not mean to vent there. Just a very touchy subject here. But great job & just hang in there something will change for this little girl

[Chandra Amaya]

I agree you did the right thing. I know its hard & you feel for her but she has to learn what is appropiate from somewhere. If everone just allows her to get away with things because of the horrible situation she is in, then she will grow up to believe what she does is acceptable & eventually use her homelife as an excuse instead of a reason to strive for something better. As she gets older & starts to understand "how society works" alittle better, just continue to let her know you are there if she needs someone. Maybe if she starts talking social services will remove her from the home or atleast she will open up to people who can lead her in the right direction.

It is wonderful to know that some bus drivers/ School officials/ ect still do care. My 8 yr old son & 11 yr old daughter (both very small for their ages) ride with high school students. I can't drive them because my oldest son has to be picked up & dropped off as they get out & it is too far away to do both. These high school students harass & beat on the elementary students & despite my attempts to try to talk with the school about solutions, no one seems to care. I have suggested having elementary on separate buses, an extra school official on the bus to keep order while the driver drives. None of this happens. My son has come home bleeding from just to the side of his eye, holding his stomach, with gum stuck in his hair, has cans & bottles throw at him (which for one should not be allowed on the bus & for 2 that's how his eye got busted...by a GLASS bottle), & with many cuts & bruises. My daughter finally got fed up with being hurt & started fighting back. Mysteriously, the driver saw her hit back & she was suspended from the bus for 3 days. The excuse is always "they didn't see the person" who hit my kids & can't just take other students on the bus' word for what happened. I wish I had some way to get them there without the bus. I wonder daily which one will be hurt & how badly.

[DianaB]

Originally Posted by Chandra Amaya

I agree you did the right thing. I know its hard & you feel for her but she has to learn what is appropiate from somewhere. If everone just allows her to get away with things because of the horrible situation she is in, then she will grow up to believe what she does is acceptable & eventually use her homelife as an excuse instead of a reason to strive for something better. As she gets older & starts to understand "how society works" alittle better, just continue to let her know you are there if she needs someone. Maybe if she starts talking social services will remove her from the home or atleast she will open up to people who can lead her in the right direction.

It is wonderful to know that some bus drivers/ School officials/ ect still do care. My 8 yr old son & 11 yr old daughter (both very small for their ages) ride with high school students. I can't drive them because my oldest son has to be picked up & dropped off as they get out & it is too far away to do both. These high school students harass & beat on the elementary students & despite my attempts to try to talk with the school about solutions, no one seems to care. I have suggested having elementary on separate buses, an extra school official on the bus to keep order while the driver drives. None of this happens. My son has come home bleeding from just to the side of his eye, holding his stomach, with gum stuck in his hair, has cans & bottles throw at him (which for one should not be allowed on the bus & for 2 that's how his eye got busted...by a GLASS bottle), & with many cuts & bruises. My daughter finally got fed up with being hurt & started fighting back. Mysteriously, the driver saw her hit back & she was suspended from the bus for 3 days. The excuse is always "they didn't see the person" who hit my kids & can't just take other students on the bus' word for what happened. I wish I had some way to get them there without the bus. I wonder daily which one will be hurt & how badly.

Chandra, if my kids EVER came home after having problems with someone on the bus I called the school right away. In a situation like yours I think that I would take my child in so they could see what was going on. Your child has a right to be driven to school in a safe enviroment. Go and talk to your Superintendent or your school board.

[Chandra Amaya]

Originally Posted by DianaB

Chandra, if my kids EVER came home after having problems with someone on the bus I called the school right away. In a situation like yours I think that I would take my child in so they could see what was going on. Your child has a right to be driven to school in a safe enviroment. Go and talk to your Superintendent or your school board.

When my son's eye was cut, he was taking to the bus supervisor to be checked before they brought him home. Pictures were taken & given to my son's school principal. They say the problem is several schools ride on the same bus & they don't know (with any proof) who is doing this. I have asked to be seen by the school board at their next meeting but have heard nothing back from them yet.

[Janet]

There is no way that should be happening. Even if the driver did not see it...I have a way of getting them to admit it. Once they do.....they are written up and taken to the principal. It is ONLY a privilage to ride the bus....not a right! Those that continue bad behavior are kicked off the bus for good. If I were you, I would not let this get slipped under the rug. Demand something be done. If the driver can't handle it, then they should be sent packing and find someone who can.

[Chandra Amaya]

Originally Posted by Janet

There is no way that should be happening. Even if the driver did not see it...I have a way of getting them to admit it. Once they do.....they are written up and taken to the principal. It is ONLY a privilage to ride the bus....not a right! Those that continue bad behavior are kicked off the bus for good. If I were you, I would not let this get slipped under the rug. Demand something be done. If the driver can't handle it, then they should be sent packing and find someone who can.

That's what I thought too. I know being a bus driver can't be an easy job, but they tell me the driver's concern is the roads not the kids. I understand they have to watch the roads to protect the kids but when the kids are on the bus I thought the driver was responsible for their safety. The bus supervisor tells me he isn't. The school deals with the children. The driver cannot even write them up. Man is this a messed up town. Maybe it would help to start a petition. I know some other parents have these same issues.

[Janet]

Originally Posted by Chandra Amaya

That's what I thought too. I know being a bus driver can't be an easy job, but they tell me the driver's concern is the roads not the kids. I understand they have to watch the roads to protect the kids but when the kids are on the bus I thought the driver was responsible for their safety. The bus supervisor tells me he isn't. The school deals with the children. The driver cannot even write them up. Man is this a messed up town. Maybe it would help to start a petition. I know some other parents have these same issues.

Sorry, but that is bulls**t!! It IS my job to get them to school and home safely and part of that is having those kids under control. I'm pretty strict with my kids. I have them sit from kindergarten in the front to high school in the back. They know if they don't like my rules....then don't ride the bus. I have very supportive parents, even if their kid may be one who gets in trouble. I'd do whatever you have to, to get that bus under control.

Originally Posted by Chandra Amaya

I agree you did the right thing. I know its hard & you feel for her but she has to learn what is appropiate from somewhere. If everone just allows her to get away with things because of the horrible situation she is in, then she will grow up to believe what she does is acceptable & eventually use her homelife as an excuse instead of a reason to strive for something better. As she gets older & starts to understand "how society works" alittle better, just continue to let her know you are there if she needs someone. Maybe if she starts talking social services will remove her from the home or atleast she will open up to people who can lead her in the right direction.

It is wonderful to know that some bus drivers/ School officials/ ect still do care. My 8 yr old son & 11 yr old daughter (both very small for their ages) ride with high school students. I can't drive them because my oldest son has to be picked up & dropped off as they get out & it is too far away to do both. These high school students harass & beat on the elementary students & despite my attempts to try to talk with the school about solutions, no one seems to care. I have suggested having elementary on separate buses, an extra school official on the bus to keep order while the driver drives. None of this happens. My son has come home bleeding from just to the side of his eye, holding his stomach, with gum stuck in his hair, has cans & bottles throw at him (which for one should not be allowed on the bus & for 2 that's how his eye got busted...by a GLASS bottle), & with many cuts & bruises. My daughter finally got fed up with being hurt & started fighting back. Mysteriously, the driver saw her hit back & she was suspended from the bus for 3 days. The excuse is always "they didn't see the person" who hit my kids & can't just take other students on the bus' word for what happened. I wish I had some way to get them there without the bus. I wonder daily which one will be hurt & how badly.

girl dont worry about venting our school district just adpated the idea of having all schools except middle and high school are inthe same school and will ride the same buses home and etc and basically they tell me that they will never see each other, yeah right when i send my twins to school i want them to be able to feel safe and not intimidated by these kids that are bullies, and i cannot continue to work full time and not be able to pick them up from school, my only other solution was to go to day care after school sice they have one bus that goes to day care.
its sad how can you haev that i mean we have kids in the 6th grade haveing intercourse and such and fighting and startinf fires etc i mean all that crazy stuff and i want my innocent kindergarteners ont he bus with them, its sad and sickening

tehy need to be serperated and they need to stick with their age groups


on the subject of this littel girl, its so sad i have an aunt who had 4 kids and her first 2 she had normal and the last 2 se became big time on drugs, and during the raising of these kids they were not there, sleeping all day and doing drgs all night

my grandma raised them and now the youngest i think is 13 and he tried to be bad but he tred to be good from all of us helping him and i finally told them off one day and told them they need to do better for thier kids to be parents and you know the dad pulled his head out of his butt and e workds now and he bought a car and stuff anf the mom is just still cracked out
its sad
but you know i can onlyhope that this little girl can remeber to see what you have done and can continue to do for her and take that with her in life, i mean thats so sad to have her reaised liek that and asking boys to do that oh no i mean thats a case of well anything these boys minds wander to

and if she says that to the wrong boy or to the wrong age boy then lord knows what might be done to her

uhh and you can turn the family in over and over and most likley nothing will happen we have seen it done to many times.
i can only pray for her and her family
it breaks my heart to see that littel girl let down

[judy]

Originally Posted by Chandra Amaya

I agree you did the right thing. I know its hard & you feel for her but she has to learn what is appropriate from somewhere. If everyone just allows her to get away with things because of the horrible situation she is in, then she will grow up to believe what she does is acceptable & eventually use her homelife as an excuse instead of a reason to strive for something better. As she gets older & starts to understand "how society works" a little better, just continue to let her know you are there if she needs someone. Maybe if she starts talking social services will remove her from the home or at least she will open up to people who can lead her in the right direction.

It is wonderful to know that some bus drivers/ School officials/ ect still do care. My 8 yr old son & 11 yr old daughter (both very small for their ages) ride with high school students. I can't drive them because my oldest son has to be picked up & dropped off as they get out & it is too far away to do both. These high school students harass & beat on the elementary students & despite my attempts to try to talk with the school about solutions, no one seems to care. I have suggested having elementary on separate buses, an extra school official on the bus to keep order while the driver drives. None of this happens. My son has come home bleeding from just to the side of his eye, holding his stomach, with gum stuck in his hair, has cans & bottles throw at him (which for one should not be allowed on the bus & for 2 that's how his eye got busted...by a GLASS bottle), & with many cuts & bruises. My daughter finally got fed up with being hurt & started fighting back. Mysteriously, the driver saw her hit back & she was suspended from the bus for 3 days. The excuse is always "they didn't see the person" who hit my kids & can't just take other students on the bus' word for what happened. I wish I had some way to get them there without the bus. I wonder daily which one will be hurt & how badly.

Chandra,

After teaching for 20 something years I have learned that parents who absolutely will not accept anything but what their children need are taken seriously.
Way too often, if they sense that you are willing to wait for them to do something about a bad situation, they'll just leave you hanging. The parents who are totally assertive and want what they want, with no exceptions, are those that get it. The squeaky wheel gets the grease - especially in the school system.

What's happening to your kids is totally unacceptable. How they fix it is their problem. They may need to be told that you are going to sue them or get the news involved. They won't like you for it, but your kids won't come home battered.
My daughter's elementary school principal knew how I liked my coffee because I went right into his office whenever something I didn't like came up. Her middle school had to change the math curriculum because of me. (It was a terrible curriculum, most of the kids were failing and they lied about it. I demanded to see all of their grades and called them on it. It was revised the next day).

Advice from an assertive Mom,