Tomorrow's a Big Day!!

I will gladly share my title Angie! I wish there were more people around here that were interested in him. People boo me all the time b/c of my Obama '08 sticker on the car, lol. Or it could be the Philadelphia Eagles sticker...oh well.
Even though Hillary won, he is still ahead in delegates, and it is pretty unlikely that she will overtake that lead. It will probably come down to some sleazy back room politics, in which case she'll win b/c of her connections.
I'm not surprised that she won Ohio, because that state is tailor made for her. Blue collar, middle class citizens tend to vote for her. Pennsylvania is the same unfortunately. He'll for sure take Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and probably Harrisburg as well. But Hillary will probably get everywhere else. I've all ready joined a couple of different groups so that I can help get the word out.
Florida and Michigan's delegates should not be allowed to count. Obama spent zero time campaigning in either state, and his name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. How is that fair for her to automatically get those delegates? It was Hillary or Kucinich for most of the democrats to vote for. My vote would have gone for Kucinich if that was the choice. I'm starting to get nervous, that's for sure....

[Marilyn]

Jess, I'm hearing more and more that he will have the most delegates going into the national convention, but what happens there could be a different story. It all boils down to who the delegates at the convention believe has the better chance of beating McCain. How Obama fairs between now and then will make the difference. He has to come on very strong and not just talk about change. Whether he wants to or not, he's going to have to attach Hillary to have a chance. They are questioning his real estate dealings, he has to question hers. They question his truthfulness about his position on NAFTA, he has to find something to counter.

The most important topic of the campaign is the not the war or healthcare, it's the economy. He has to show that he has a strong plan.

The people have to believe that he is up to the challenge of being Commander-in-Chief, bottomline.

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[pearl]

something just said on the news, and i haven't done the math so don't know if it's accurate...that without any of the florida and michigan delegates counted neither obama nor hilary can get the needed number of delegates...2025...to get the nomination.
don't know if they are including the superdelegates or not.
but, obama wasn't even on the michigan ballot.

[Marilyn]

Originally Posted by pearl

something just said on the news, and i haven't done the math so don't know if it's accurate...that without any of the florida and michigan delegates counted neither obama nor hilary can get the needed number of delegates...2025...to get the nomination.
don't know if they are including the superdelegates or not.
but, obama wasn't even on the michigan ballot.

That's correct. I don't know that with them counted, either one can get enough to clinch it. Whoever has the most going to the convention though should be favored at the conventions, so that's why each vote is so important at this stage. Hillary is pushing hard for these votes to count, since she won both primaries. And as you said, Obama wasn't even on the Michigan ballot. The only way I can see to have these states count is a do over, but no one wants to pay for it. The states want the National Democratic Party to pay & why should they when the states knowingly broke the rules. The states should pay if they want their votes to count. If the rules are bent on this, why do we even have rules?? The Republicans have the same issue, only since McCain is a clear winner, it's a non-issue for them. 1/2 of the Republican delegates from the two states will not count.

Do you realize that if Ralph Nader had not run in 2000, Bush would not have become president. Nader pulled enough of the votes from Al Gore in Florida that had he not run, there would have been no need for a recount. It's amazing in a country so large how little things can have such a great effect.

I have sirius, so I can't listen to that station. But my brother has XM, and he loves listening to that. I still think he has a chance of winning this thing. If he continues on with leading the popular vote, all hell will break lose if the superdelegates side with Hillary. Unforunately, I feel that may happen. I called my sister this morning, so she could find out where in Philly they will be speaking at. I guess Chelsea was all ready at UPenn last night. Doesn't sound like they want to take any chances. I'm going to Philly sunday to go to visit my grandparent's grave, but hopefully I can do something while I'm down there to get involved. If not, I plan on going Monday morning with my daughter. I don't want to sit this one out.

[pearl]

Originally Posted by Marilyn

Do you realize that if Ralph Nader had not run in 2000, Bush would not have become president. Nader pulled enough of the votes from Al Gore in Florida that had he not run, there would have been no need for a recount. It's amazing in a country so large how little things can have such a great effect.

yes! i used to hear back then "george bush won by one vote." meaning the supreme court vote of 5-4.

[judy]

Marilyn - how exciting that you're such a big part of this! I'm on the Obama train as well, but I think that he and Hillary should join forces (to a point) or McCain is going to win.

If they continue their fighting, they'll just look foolish. I agree with you Jess - they would win if they teamed up. I'm looking at the bigger picture though and would like to see a Democratic President for a change. I'm not liking what we have now one little bit.

I don't see much difference between Hillary and McCain. He's not bad, and neither is she. I just want change in our country. I also really like Obama. Michelle is a wonderful woman too!

I hope he wins (crossing fingers)

[judy]

....and I think Ralph Nader is an old fool! He's just taking votes away from the Dems.

He forgot to call me and ask my opinion!