Puppies puppies everywhere!

DianaB · 05-26-2008, 07:23 AM

It looks like Gypsy will have plenty of company for a while! She fits right in. She is a beautiful lab!!!

Dobie · 05-29-2008, 06:28 PM

I'm not sure how many females you have, now that Gypsy's had her pups, how long before you'll be able to have more pups on the way? (I hope we can see more sweet little black puppies soon)

Tink · 05-29-2008, 06:45 PM

Dobie,
I have Canada, mother of the 6 week old litter and soon to be retired.
Bella who just had this litter yesterday.
Hickory who is not quite 2 yet so hasn't been bred.
Gypsy who is 8 weeks so has a lot of growing to do.

I'd like to find another breeding age Lab to replace Canada, but it's easier said than done since I have to be a bit selective on health and temperament. They have to be worth reproducing. And I'm working on a co-breeding program with the family I bought Gypsy from. It looks right now like I'll be able to use her mom and we're considering one more.

Dobie · 05-31-2008, 07:12 AM

Sorry for my ignorance here, but if you breed a doodle to a doogle, do you get a doodle? or do you need to have the lab and poodle each time?

Tink · 05-31-2008, 06:05 PM

In hybrid genetics, there are varying classes. the original Lab to poodle is called and F1 labradoodle
An F1 bred to an f1 is called an f2
an F1 bred back to either a lab or a poodle (Most often poodle) is an F1b
There are many different levels and the higher you go the more complcated it gets. So no, that's not a silly question at all!
The breed recognized as Labradoodles in Australia has as many as 6 different breeds infused into them. Some American breeders are doing that, but most like myself stick to the lab x poodle or f1 back to poodle.

The reason I prefer to stick with the original generation is that it's the one where you're eliminating the most genetic problems and taking the best advantage of "hybrid vigor". Many genetic problems require that both parents carry the gene to pass it on... so in using 2 distinctly different breeds, you eliminate the possibility of those that one or the other breed doesn't have.

Dobie · 05-31-2008, 06:09 PM

Thanks for the explanation!

Tink · 06-01-2008, 03:37 PM

4day old girl.jpg At 4 days of age this little girls is a real chub.

4dayold boy.jpg Her darker bigger brother is already too large to be safely held in one hand. It's impossible to hold onto him when he starts to wiggle.

I guess there's something to be said for having small litters!

Marilyn · 06-04-2008, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tink

The breed recognized as Labradoodles in Australia has as many as 6 different breeds infused into them. Some American breeders are doing that, but most like myself stick to the lab x poodle or f1 back to poodle.

Just curious....what other breeds are they using in Australia?

AngieDoogles · 06-05-2008, 01:38 PM

Your puppies are beautiful Tink! Thanks for all the information. That was interesting to read.

05-29-2008, 06:45 PM	#3
Tink Donating 4WT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rural Wisconsin Posts: 3,707	Dobie, I have Canada, mother of the 6 week old litter and soon to be retired. Bella who just had this litter yesterday. Hickory who is not quite 2 yet so hasn't been bred. Gypsy who is 8 weeks so has a lot of growing to do. I'd like to find another breeding age Lab to replace Canada, but it's easier said than done since I have to be a bit selective on health and temperament. They have to be worth reproducing. And I'm working on a co-breeding program with the family I bought Gypsy from. It looks right now like I'll be able to use her mom and we're considering one more. __________________ 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.' England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair'

05-31-2008, 06:05 PM	#5
Tink Donating 4WT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rural Wisconsin Posts: 3,707	In hybrid genetics, there are varying classes. the original Lab to poodle is called and F1 labradoodle An F1 bred to an f1 is called an f2 an F1 bred back to either a lab or a poodle (Most often poodle) is an F1b There are many different levels and the higher you go the more complcated it gets. So no, that's not a silly question at all! The breed recognized as Labradoodles in Australia has as many as 6 different breeds infused into them. Some American breeders are doing that, but most like myself stick to the lab x poodle or f1 back to poodle. The reason I prefer to stick with the original generation is that it's the one where you're eliminating the most genetic problems and taking the best advantage of "hybrid vigor". Many genetic problems require that both parents carry the gene to pass it on... so in using 2 distinctly different breeds, you eliminate the possibility of those that one or the other breed doesn't have. __________________ 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.' England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair'

06-01-2008, 03:37 PM	#7
Tink Donating 4WT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rural Wisconsin Posts: 3,707	4 day old babies 4day old girl.jpg At 4 days of age this little girls is a real chub. 4dayold boy.jpg Her darker bigger brother is already too large to be safely held in one hand. It's impossible to hold onto him when he starts to wiggle. I guess there's something to be said for having small litters! __________________ 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.' England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair'

06-05-2008, 01:38 PM	#9
AngieDoogles Donating 4WT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,509	Your puppies are beautiful Tink! Thanks for all the information. That was interesting to read. __________________ "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~MT

05-26-2008, 07:23 AM	#1
DianaB Moderator Donating 4WT 13K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 16,069	It looks like Gypsy will have plenty of company for a while! She fits right in. She is a beautiful lab!!!

05-29-2008, 06:28 PM	#2
Dobie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,075	I'm not sure how many females you have, now that Gypsy's had her pups, how long before you'll be able to have more pups on the way? (I hope we can see more sweet little black puppies soon)

05-31-2008, 07:12 AM	#4
Dobie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,075	Sorry for my ignorance here, but if you breed a doodle to a doogle, do you get a doodle? or do you need to have the lab and poodle each time?

05-31-2008, 06:09 PM	#6
Dobie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,075	Thanks for the explanation!

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